Reply to a friend who in response to yesterday's post about decline of west- asked me- WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
Hello XXXX
It’s true that the article does not tell us anything new that we don’t know.
However it is what is not written that is important.
It is the concept of Organic growth as opposed the fast track.
It is the Indian psyche to be a bit laid back and believe in the karma- we’ve been doing it and will continue to do it.
The average Indian out there still believes in the Five fold path of Buddha- even though sub consciously.
When that farmer grows groundnuts in his farm and cultivates to sell it to another man who will roast and sell it on a small cart- it will happen to be the basic step in economics. The first principle as in differential calculus. The very concept of growth will start from there.
He’s done something that the doyens of Wall street cannot do- produce a good.
After the wheels of entrepreneurship are set into motion everything will happen.
India’s strength is not it’s population but the ability of the population to give themselves job and save some money from that.
That is why in a country where we retail YSL and Chanel we can also talk of minimum daily sustainance at Rs.28.
We are headed in the right direction irrespective of the 10 crore population that will be trained by the National Training Council in next 10 years- or not.
The CEO of Franklin Templeton once said in a TV interview 12 yrs back- In India the industry starts first, then the govt. forms rules and forms the regulatory body.
It is a fact that, if we need to move ahead we’ll have to be original.
We’ll have to shake off the pre meditated conditioning that is provided in MBA colleges.
Just like Japan defined its own code of management. We’ll have to be original in our scope and outlook.
At the end of the day whatever goes up must come down (a fact of law of gravitation)- however it is often overlooked that the faster you go up, the harder you fall (I think that would be First law of Motion).
Now you can look at it either from a philosopher’s perspective, scientist’s or even a economist’s. It has to hold good.
Sorry but my talk has given me a headache- b4 it does something to you I’ll stop.
Thursday, November 17, 2011
Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Why the decline of the West is best for us – and them. By R Vaidyanathan, Professor of Finance, IIM Bangalore.
Why the decline of the West is best for us – and them. By R Vaidyanathan, Professor of Finance, IIM Bangalore.
by Ishwar Jha on Monday, November 7, 2011 at 10:17am
Ten years ago, America had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now
it has no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash. Or so the joke goes.
Only, it’s no joke. The line is pretty close to reality in the US. The
less said about Europe the better. Both the US and Europe are in
decline. I was asked by a business channel in 2008 about recovery in
the US. I mentioned 40 quarters and after that I was never invited for
another discussion.
Recently, another media person asked me the same question and I
answered 80 quarters. He was shocked since he was told some “sprouts”
of recovery had been seen in the American economy.
It is important to recognise that the dominance of the West has been
there only for last 200-and-odd years. According to Angus Maddison’s
pioneering OECD study, India and China had nearly 50 percent of global
GDP as late as the 1820s. Hence India and China are not emerging or
rising powers. They are retrieving their original position.
The dollar is having a roller coaster ride at present.
In 1990, the share of the G-7 in world GDP (on a purchasing power
parity basis) was 51 percent and that of emerging markets 36 percent.
But in 2011, it is the reverse. So the dominant west is a myth.
Similarly, the crisis. It is a US-Europe crisis and not a global one.
The two wars – which were essentially European wars – were made out to
be world wars with one English leader commenting that ‘we will fight
the Germans to the last Indian’.
In this economic scenario, countries like India are made to feel as if
they are in a crisis. Since the West says there’s a crisis, we swallow
it hook, line and sinker.
But it isn’t so. At no point of time in the last 20 years has foreign
investment – direct and portfolio – exceeded 10 percent of our
domestic investment. Our growth is due to our domestic savings which
is again predominately household savings. Our housewives require
awards for our growth not any western fund manager.
The crisis faced by the West is primarily because it has forgotten a
six-letter word called ‘saving’ which, again, is the result of
forgetting another six letter word called “family”. The West has
nationalised families over the last 60 years. Old age, ill health,
single motherhood – everything is the responsibility of the state.
When family is a “burden” and children an “encumbrance,” society goes
for a toss. Household savings have been negative in the US for long.
The total debt to GDP ratio is as high as 400 percent in many
countries, including UK. Not only that, the West is facing a severe
demographic crisis. The population of Europe during the First World
War was nearly 25 percent and today it is around 11 percent and
expected to become 3 percent in another 20 years. Europe will
disappear from the world map unless migrants from Africa and Asia take
it over.
The demographic crisis impacts the West in other ways. Social security
goes for a toss since people are living longer and not many from below
contribute to their pensions through taxes. So the nationalisation of
families becomes a burden on the state.
European work culture has become worse with even our own Tata
complaining about the work ethic of British managers. In France and
Italy, the weekend starts on Friday morning itself. The population has
become lazy and state-dependent.
In the UK, the situation is worse with drunkenness becoming a common
problem. Parents do not have control over children and the Chief Rabbi
of the United Hebrew Congregation in London said: “There are all
signs of arteriosclerosis of a culture and a civilisation grown old.
Me has taken precedence over We and pleasure today over viability
tomorrow.” (The Times: 8 September ).
Married couples make up less than half (45 percent) of all households
in the US, say recent data from the Census Bureau. Also there is a
huge growth in unmarried couples and single parent families (mostly
poor, black women). Society has become dysfunctional or disorganised
in the West. The government is trying to be organised.
In India, society is organised and government disorganised. Because of
disorganised society in the West the state has to take care of
families. The market crash is essentially due to the adoption of a
model where there is consumption with borrowings and no savings. How
long will Asian savings be able to sustain the western spending binge?
According to a recent report in The Wall Street Journal (10 October
2011), nearly half of US households receive government benefits like
food stamps, subsidised housing, cash welfare or Medicare or Medicaid
(the federal-state health care programmes for the poor) or social
security.
The US is also a stock market economy where half the households are
investors and they have been hit hard by bank and corporate failures.
Even now less than 5 percent of our household financial savings goes
to the stock market. Same in China and Japan.
Declining empires are dangerous. They will try to peddle their failed
models to us and we will swallow it since colonial genes are very much
present here. You will find more Indians heading global corporations
since India is a very large market and one way to capture it is to
make Indian sepoys work for it.
A declining West is best for the rest and also for the West, which
needs to rethink its failed models and rework its priorities. For the
rest—like us—the fact that the West has failed will be accepted by us
only after some western scholars tell us the same. Till then we will
try to imitate them and create more dysfunctional families.
We need to recognise that Big Government and Big Business are twin
dangers for average citizens. India faces both and they are two asuras
we need to guard against. The Leftists in the National Advisory
Council want all families to be nationalised and governed by a Big
State and reform marketers of the CII variety want Big Business to
flourish under crony capitalism. Beware of the twin evils since both
look upon India as a charity house or as a market and not as an
ancient civilisation.
R.VAIDYANATHAN
PROFESSOR OF FINANCE
INDIAN INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT
BANNERGHATTA ROAD
BANGALORE
INDIA_560076
TEL: 91-80-2699-3086
FAX:91-80-2658-4050
E mail:vaidya@iimb.erne
by Ishwar Jha on Monday, November 7, 2011 at 10:17am
Ten years ago, America had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now
it has no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash. Or so the joke goes.
Only, it’s no joke. The line is pretty close to reality in the US. The
less said about Europe the better. Both the US and Europe are in
decline. I was asked by a business channel in 2008 about recovery in
the US. I mentioned 40 quarters and after that I was never invited for
another discussion.
Recently, another media person asked me the same question and I
answered 80 quarters. He was shocked since he was told some “sprouts”
of recovery had been seen in the American economy.
It is important to recognise that the dominance of the West has been
there only for last 200-and-odd years. According to Angus Maddison’s
pioneering OECD study, India and China had nearly 50 percent of global
GDP as late as the 1820s. Hence India and China are not emerging or
rising powers. They are retrieving their original position.
The dollar is having a roller coaster ride at present.
In 1990, the share of the G-7 in world GDP (on a purchasing power
parity basis) was 51 percent and that of emerging markets 36 percent.
But in 2011, it is the reverse. So the dominant west is a myth.
Similarly, the crisis. It is a US-Europe crisis and not a global one.
The two wars – which were essentially European wars – were made out to
be world wars with one English leader commenting that ‘we will fight
the Germans to the last Indian’.
In this economic scenario, countries like India are made to feel as if
they are in a crisis. Since the West says there’s a crisis, we swallow
it hook, line and sinker.
But it isn’t so. At no point of time in the last 20 years has foreign
investment – direct and portfolio – exceeded 10 percent of our
domestic investment. Our growth is due to our domestic savings which
is again predominately household savings. Our housewives require
awards for our growth not any western fund manager.
The crisis faced by the West is primarily because it has forgotten a
six-letter word called ‘saving’ which, again, is the result of
forgetting another six letter word called “family”. The West has
nationalised families over the last 60 years. Old age, ill health,
single motherhood – everything is the responsibility of the state.
When family is a “burden” and children an “encumbrance,” society goes
for a toss. Household savings have been negative in the US for long.
The total debt to GDP ratio is as high as 400 percent in many
countries, including UK. Not only that, the West is facing a severe
demographic crisis. The population of Europe during the First World
War was nearly 25 percent and today it is around 11 percent and
expected to become 3 percent in another 20 years. Europe will
disappear from the world map unless migrants from Africa and Asia take
it over.
The demographic crisis impacts the West in other ways. Social security
goes for a toss since people are living longer and not many from below
contribute to their pensions through taxes. So the nationalisation of
families becomes a burden on the state.
European work culture has become worse with even our own Tata
complaining about the work ethic of British managers. In France and
Italy, the weekend starts on Friday morning itself. The population has
become lazy and state-dependent.
In the UK, the situation is worse with drunkenness becoming a common
problem. Parents do not have control over children and the Chief Rabbi
of the United Hebrew Congregation in London said: “There are all
signs of arteriosclerosis of a culture and a civilisation grown old.
Me has taken precedence over We and pleasure today over viability
tomorrow.” (The Times: 8 September ).
Married couples make up less than half (45 percent) of all households
in the US, say recent data from the Census Bureau. Also there is a
huge growth in unmarried couples and single parent families (mostly
poor, black women). Society has become dysfunctional or disorganised
in the West. The government is trying to be organised.
In India, society is organised and government disorganised. Because of
disorganised society in the West the state has to take care of
families. The market crash is essentially due to the adoption of a
model where there is consumption with borrowings and no savings. How
long will Asian savings be able to sustain the western spending binge?
According to a recent report in The Wall Street Journal (10 October
2011), nearly half of US households receive government benefits like
food stamps, subsidised housing, cash welfare or Medicare or Medicaid
(the federal-state health care programmes for the poor) or social
security.
The US is also a stock market economy where half the households are
investors and they have been hit hard by bank and corporate failures.
Even now less than 5 percent of our household financial savings goes
to the stock market. Same in China and Japan.
Declining empires are dangerous. They will try to peddle their failed
models to us and we will swallow it since colonial genes are very much
present here. You will find more Indians heading global corporations
since India is a very large market and one way to capture it is to
make Indian sepoys work for it.
A declining West is best for the rest and also for the West, which
needs to rethink its failed models and rework its priorities. For the
rest—like us—the fact that the West has failed will be accepted by us
only after some western scholars tell us the same. Till then we will
try to imitate them and create more dysfunctional families.
We need to recognise that Big Government and Big Business are twin
dangers for average citizens. India faces both and they are two asuras
we need to guard against. The Leftists in the National Advisory
Council want all families to be nationalised and governed by a Big
State and reform marketers of the CII variety want Big Business to
flourish under crony capitalism. Beware of the twin evils since both
look upon India as a charity house or as a market and not as an
ancient civilisation.
R.VAIDYANATHAN
PROFESSOR OF FINANCE
INDIAN INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT
BANNERGHATTA ROAD
BANGALORE
INDIA_560076
TEL: 91-80-2699-3086
FAX:91-80-2658-4050
E mail:vaidya@iimb.erne
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